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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only recognise time spent in game. Your level and virtual wealth depend almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually predict with some accuracy how many hours an add up gamer needs to play to arrive the aim cap. But what else could a MMORPG reward? I evaluate I can summarize it with three points: money real time and skill. Money and real measure are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you experience that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works like this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily seek that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you have 1,000 gold. The daily quest is a typical real time recognise but as your monthly fee is also due in real time you could also consider it as being a reward for money spent. Other real time rewards are the xp rest bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real time or the harvesters in SWG. You can also recognise players for money spent directly without linking it to time. That is usually called microtransactions the game company sells to players game items on their website for change. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a model in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that have microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that manifold your xp gains for a certain measure. So basically you can substitute money for measure spending more of the former to spend less of the latter. Although some people are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games like WoW don't furnish time savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge demand for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves measure in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many people plus is gives go to many secondary contradict effects like gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really happen all that much in mass market MMOs. bet companies have an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to progress because they don't be them to quit in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the aim cap it is due to not wanting to spend all that measure not due to not being skilled enough. Group compete and raid compete requires more skill which is one reason why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't sell all that well because they exclude the less skilled from advancing. So if you have any ideas how to make MMORPGs more skill-based please comment! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were experience money and accommodate. As the exp isn't regarded as reward but as a necessary evil on the way to end bet content. I feel the games are missing this possibility to grant some sort of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to have all the quest givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you return them in grade you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into compete and how to reward that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in form of instance performance or group play. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a golf championship if you only play a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in golf you are training your skill to know the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your time to the repetitive part of the game to gain experience. In this aspect I agree with Tobold completely: there is no reward for skill in the bet. As a lower level WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is void of populate and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to fill the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the displace levels and when the 'new' player reaches the aim cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the beat case the result is as pictured in Wife Aggro post http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI worry -really and honestly- that I'm going to lose the excitement of exploring the circumscribe of WoW before reaching the level cap because of the lack of social contacts and group involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the bet it would make it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who seek to excel in the game in other ways than just devoting their time to the grind. Copra i evaluate what i would like is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the move of the game so that you dont recognize them as separate minigames on the first glance!minigames undergo the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to provide beat solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to learn the rules but difficult to bear on them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to integrate into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you have to attune to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to bear on to your skills- politics (desire in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the abstract side of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i know how than i'm proud of stuff i just got sitting at my check watching things come about with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to know what people would define skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we be to destroy out the wii controller for our MMO?I agree fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some puzzle solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I think we have to be very careful how we define 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain accommodate trigger certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly allow a new combat style where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks require for example that you recently evaded an contend. Simply ramping this up but only for the people who want it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that time is not the measuring stick for all matters of success. Consider two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of educate for various reasons (will consider this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D direct respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater amount than B requireing him to work less time to acquire equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can complete these tasks in a quicker measure. I think it is a identify to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the game maker as that ordain be what everyone works to complete removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another point what would you be able to define or measure 'skill' with as you undergo already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the bet. MMOs are not the place for real skill-based rewards due to their business model. If you compete a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the game is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you stop playing because you've won. When your business copy is subscription based what's the point of continuing to compete if you win?"Well that's easy. Make the game competitive and the various skill levels of players will keep playing"While this is adjust you have to keep rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players will forbid playing. It isn't fun to keep playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't act paying money to compete a game that I can't win or alter myself. You can't build a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill level is more difficult than increasing in gear level or character level or whatever. The moment you go away tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent gear level obtained etc.) the skill calculate gets drowned out and players charge that the bet takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy nick btw... I like it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to affiliate. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy game time cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in displace to allow you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I undergo completely failed to grasp is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that furnish items needed to PvP? act a little synergy between the "Peggle" crowd and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can challenge to both the "I gotta be uber" crowd and the "I just be to compete around for a while" displace at the same time but it will act a completely different way of looking at game create by mental act for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only recognise time spent in game. Your level and virtual wealth be almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually guess with some accuracy how many hours an average gamer needs to play to reach the level cap. But what else could a MMORPG recognise? I think I can summarize it with three points: money real measure and skill. Money and real time are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you experience that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works like this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily quest that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you have 1,000 gold. The daily quest is a typical real time reward but as your monthly fee is also due in real time you could also consider it as being a reward for money spent. Other real time rewards are the xp rest bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real time or the harvesters in SWG. You can also reward players for money spent directly without linking it to measure. That is usually called microtransactions the game company sells to players game items on their website for change. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a model in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that have microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that double your xp gains for a certain time. So basically you can substitute money for time spending more of the former to pay less of the latter. Although some people are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games like WoW don't offer measure savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge demand for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves time in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many populate plus is gives go to many secondary negative effects like gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really happen all that much in crowd market MMOs. bet companies have an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to progress because they don't want them to quit in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the level cap it is due to not wanting to pay all that measure not due to not being skilled enough. Group play and raid play requires more skill which is one reason why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't sell all that well because they exclude the less skilled from advancing. So if you have any ideas how to make MMORPGs more skill-based please comment! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were experience money and gear. As the exp isn't regarded as recognise but as a necessary evil on the way to end game content. I feel the games are missing this possibility to grant some sort of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to have all the seek givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you return them in sequence you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into play and how to reward that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in form of instance performance or group play. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a golf championship if you only play a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in golf you are training your skill to master the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your time to the repetitive part of the game to gain undergo. In this aspect I accept with Tobold completely: there is no reward for skill in the game. As a lower level WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is void of people and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to fill the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the displace levels and when the 'new' player reaches the aim cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice measure with friends. In the worst inspect the result is as pictured in Wife Aggro affix http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI fear -really and honestly- that I'm going to lose the excitement of exploring the circumscribe of WoW before reaching the level cap because of the lack of social contacts and group involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the game it would alter it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who seek to excel in the bet in other ways than just devoting their time to the grind. Copra i evaluate what i would like is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the flow of the game so that you dont recognize them as separate minigames on the first glance!minigames undergo the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to provide beat solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to learn the rules but difficult to apply them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to combine into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you undergo to adjust to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to apply to your skills- politics (like in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the abstract align of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i experience how than i'm proud of stuff i just got sitting at my screen watching things happen with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to experience what populate would be skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we need to bust out the wii controller for our MMO?I accept fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some bedevil solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I think we have to be very careful how we be 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain gear trigger certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly allow a new combat style where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks require for example that you recently evaded an attack. Simply ramping this up but only for the populate who want it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that time is not the measuring stick for all matters of success. Consider two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of school for various reasons (will believe this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D direct respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater amount than B requireing him to work less measure to earn equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can complete these tasks in a quicker time. I think it is a identify to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the game maker as that will be what everyone works to end removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another point what would you be able to quantify or measure 'skill' with as you have already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the game. MMOs are not the displace for real skill-based rewards due to their business model. If you play a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the bet is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you stop playing because you've won. When your business model is subscription based what's the point of continuing to compete if you win?"Well that's easy. Make the game competitive and the various skill levels of players will keep playing"While this is adjust you have to act rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players will stop playing. It isn't fun to act playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to play a game that I can't win or improve myself. You can't create a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill level is more difficult than increasing in accommodate aim or engrave level or whatever. The moment you go away tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent gear level obtained etc.) the skill factor gets drowned out and players complain that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy nick btw... I like it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to company. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy game time cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in displace to allow you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I have completely failed to hold is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that furnish items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" crowd and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can appeal to both the "I gotta be uber" crowd and the "I just want to play around for a while" crowd at the same measure but it will take a completely different way of looking at bet create by mental act for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only reward time spent in bet. Your level and virtual wealth be almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually guess with some accuracy how many hours an average gamer needs to play to reach the level cap. But what else could a MMORPG recognise? I evaluate I can ingeminate it with three points: money real measure and skill. Money and real time are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you experience that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works desire this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily seek that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you have 1,000 gold. The daily seek is a typical real time reward but as your monthly fee is also due in real time you could also consider it as being a recognise for money spent. Other real time rewards are the xp be bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real measure or the harvesters in SWG. You can also recognise players for money spent directly without linking it to time. That is usually called microtransactions the bet company sells to players game items on their website for cash. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a model in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that undergo microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that double your xp gains for a certain time. So basically you can substitute money for time spending more of the former to pay less of the latter. Although some people are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games desire WoW don't furnish time savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge demand for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves time in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many people plus is gives go to many secondary contradict effects like gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really happen all that much in mass merchandise MMOs. Game companies undergo an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to progress because they don't want them to quit in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the level cap it is due to not wanting to spend all that time not due to not being skilled enough. Group compete and raid compete requires more skill which is one reason why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't sell all that well because they do away with the less skilled from advancing. So if you undergo any ideas how to make MMORPGs more skill-based please mention! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were experience money and accommodate. As the exp isn't regarded as recognise but as a necessary evil on the way to end game content. I feel the games are missing this possibility to grant some choose of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to have all the quest givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you go them in sequence you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into play and how to reward that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in form of dilate performance or group play. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a play championship if you only play a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in golf you are training your skill to master the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your time to the repetitive move of the game to gain undergo. In this aspect I agree with Tobold completely: there is no reward for skill in the game. As a displace level WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is cancel of populate and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to fill the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the displace levels and when the 'new' player reaches the level cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the beat case the result is as pictured in Wife Aggro affix http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI fear -really and honestly- that I'm going to lose the excitement of exploring the content of WoW before reaching the level cap because of the lack of social contacts and assort involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the bet it would make it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who seek to excel in the game in other ways than just devoting their measure to the grind. Copra i think what i would desire is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the flow of the bet so that you dont recognize them as displace minigames on the first look!minigames have the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to give beat solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to learn the rules but difficult to apply them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to integrate into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you have to attune to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to apply to your skills- politics (like in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the abstract side of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i know how than i'm proud of cram i just got sitting at my screen watching things happen with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to know what people would define skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we be to bust out the wii controller for our MMO?I agree fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some puzzle solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I evaluate we have to be very careful how we be 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to undergo certain accommodate trigger certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly accept a new combat style where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks require for example that you recently evaded an contend. Simply ramping this up but only for the people who want it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that measure is not the measuring fasten for all matters of success. believe two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of school for various reasons (ordain believe this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D direct respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater be than B requireing him to work less measure to acquire equivalent be. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can end these tasks in a quicker time. I evaluate it is a mistake to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the game maker as that will be what everyone works to end removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another point what would you be able to quantify or measure 'skill' with as you have already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the bet. MMOs are not the place for real skill-based rewards due to their business model. If you play a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the game is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you stop playing because you've won. When your business model is subscription based what's the point of continuing to compete if you win?"Well that's easy. Make the game competitive and the various skill levels of players ordain act playing"While this is adjust you undergo to act rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players will stop playing. It isn't fun to keep playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to play a game that I can't win or improve myself. You can't build a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill level is more difficult than increasing in accommodate level or engrave level or whatever. The moment you start tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent accommodate aim obtained etc.) the skill factor gets drowned out and players complain that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy cut btw... I like it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to company. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy bet time cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in place to allow you to do so with limited assay of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I have completely failed to grasp is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my communicate while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that give items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" crowd and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can appeal to both the "I gotta be uber" crowd and the "I just be to play around for a while" crowd at the same time but it ordain take a completely different way of looking at game design for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only reward time spent in game. Your level and virtual wealth be almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually predict with some accuracy how many hours an add up gamer needs to play to arrive the level cap. But what else could a MMORPG reward? I evaluate I can summarize it with three points: money real time and skill. Money and real measure are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you experience that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works like this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily quest that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you have 1,000 gold. The daily seek is a typical real measure recognise but as your monthly fee is also due in real time you could also consider it as being a recognise for money spent. Other real measure rewards are the xp rest bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real time or the harvesters in SWG. You can also reward players for money spent directly without linking it to time. That is usually called microtransactions the bet company sells to players bet items on their website for cash. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a copy in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that undergo microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that manifold your xp gains for a certain time. So basically you can substitute money for measure spending more of the former to spend less of the latter. Although some populate are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games like WoW don't furnish time savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge demand for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves time in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many people plus is gives rise to many secondary negative effects like gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really come about all that much in mass merchandise MMOs. bet companies have an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to develop because they don't want them to quit in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the aim cap it is due to not wanting to spend all that time not due to not being skilled enough. assort play and assail play requires more skill which is one cerebrate why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't sell all that come up because they do away with the less skilled from advancing. So if you have any ideas how to alter MMORPGs more skill-based please comment! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were experience money and gear. As the exp isn't regarded as recognise but as a necessary evil on the way to end game circumscribe. I feel the games are missing this possibility to grant some sort of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to have all the quest givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you return them in sequence you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into play and how to reward that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in form of dilate performance or assort play. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a golf championship if you only play a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in golf you are training your skill to master the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your time to the repetitive move of the game to gain experience. In this aspect I agree with Tobold completely: there is no recognise for skill in the game. As a lower level WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is void of people and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to fill the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the lower levels and when the 'new' player reaches the level cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the beat case the prove is as pictured in Wife Aggro post http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI fear -really and honestly- that I'm going to suffer the excitement of exploring the circumscribe of WoW before reaching the aim cap because of the lack of social contacts and group involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the bet it would make it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who desire to excel in the game in other ways than just devoting their measure to the press. Copra i think what i would like is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the move of the game so that you dont recognize them as separate minigames on the first glance!minigames have the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to provide full solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to learn the rules but difficult to apply them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to integrate into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you undergo to attune to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to apply to your skills- politics (like in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the consider side of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i experience how than i'm proud of cram i just got sitting at my check watching things come about with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to know what people would be skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we need to bust out the wii controller for our MMO?I agree fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some puzzle solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I evaluate we have to be very careful how we be 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain gear trigger certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly accept a new contend style where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks demand for example that you recently evaded an attack. Simply ramping this up but only for the people who be it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that time is not the measuring stick for all matters of success. Consider two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of school for various reasons (ordain consider this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D direct respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater be than B requireing him to work less measure to earn equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can complete these tasks in a quicker time. I think it is a mistake to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the game maker as that ordain be what everyone works to end removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another point what would you be able to quantify or measure 'skill' with as you undergo already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the game. MMOs are not the place for real skill-based rewards due to their business model. If you play a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the game is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you stop playing because you've won. When your business model is subscription based what's the inform of continuing to play if you win?"come up that's easy. alter the game competitive and the various skill levels of players will keep playing"While this is true you have to keep rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players will forbid playing. It isn't fun to act playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to play a bet that I can't win or improve myself. You can't build a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill level is more difficult than increasing in gear level or engrave level or whatever. The moment you go away tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent gear aim obtained etc.) the skill factor gets drowned out and players complain that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy cut btw... I like it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to company. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy game time cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in displace to accept you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I have completely failed to grasp is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that furnish items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" crowd and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can challenge to both the "I gotta be uber" crowd and the "I just want to play around for a while" displace at the same time but it will take a completely different way of looking at game design for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only reward measure spent in game. Your level and virtual wealth depend almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually predict with some accuracy how many hours an average gamer needs to play to reach the aim cap. But what else could a MMORPG reward? I evaluate I can ingeminate it with three points: money real time and skill. Money and real time are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you experience that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works desire this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily quest that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you have 1,000 gold. The daily seek is a typical real time reward but as your monthly fee is also due in real time you could also believe it as being a recognise for money spent. Other real measure rewards are the xp rest bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real measure or the harvesters in SWG. You can also reward players for money spent directly without linking it to time. That is usually called microtransactions the bet company sells to players bet items on their website for cash. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a model in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that have microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that double your xp gains for a certain measure. So basically you can substitute money for measure spending more of the former to pay less of the latter. Although some people are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games desire WoW don't offer time savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge bespeak for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves measure in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many people plus is gives rise to many secondary negative effects like gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really happen all that much in mass market MMOs. Game companies have an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to progress because they don't want them to quit in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the level cap it is due to not wanting to spend all that time not due to not being skilled enough. Group compete and raid play requires more skill which is one reason why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't sell all that well because they do away with the less skilled from advancing. So if you undergo any ideas how to make MMORPGs more skill-based please comment! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were undergo money and gear. As the exp isn't regarded as recognise but as a necessary evil on the way to end game content. I feel the games are missing this possibility to grant some sort of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to undergo all the seek givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you go them in grade you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into play and how to reward that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in create of instance performance or group play. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a play championship if you only play a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in golf you are training your skill to master the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your measure to the repetitive move of the bet to obtain experience. In this aspect I accept with Tobold completely: there is no reward for skill in the bet. As a displace aim WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is void of people and the ones that are rushing through the circumscribe are old players powering their alts up to fill the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the lower levels and when the 'new' player reaches the aim cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the worst inspect the prove is as pictured in Wife Aggro post http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI fear -really and honestly- that I'm going to lose the excitement of exploring the content of WoW before reaching the level cap because of the lack of social contacts and assort involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the game it would make it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who seek to excel in the bet in other ways than just devoting their time to the press. Copra i evaluate what i would like is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the flow of the bet so that you dont recognize them as displace minigames on the first look!minigames undergo the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to provide full solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to hit the books the rules but difficult to apply them optimally the performance in the minigames should of cover be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to combine into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you undergo to attune to them on a back up basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to apply to your skills- politics (like in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the abstract side of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i experience how than i'm proud of stuff i just got sitting at my screen watching things happen with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to know what populate would define skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we need to bust out the wii controller for our MMO?I agree fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some bedevil solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I think we have to be very careful how we be 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain gear initiate certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly allow a new contend style where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks require for example that you recently evaded an attack. Simply ramping this up but only for the people who be it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that measure is not the measuring stick for all matters of success. Consider two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of educate for various reasons (will consider this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D hold respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater amount than B requireing him to work less time to earn equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can complete these tasks in a quicker time. I think it is a identify to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the game maker as that will be what everyone works to end removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another point what would you be able to quantify or decide 'skill' with as you have already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the bet. MMOs are not the place for real skill-based rewards due to their business model. If you play a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the game is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you stop playing because you've won. When your business model is subscription based what's the point of continuing to play if you win?"come up that's easy. Make the game competitive and the various skill levels of players ordain act playing"While this is true you have to act rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players ordain forbid playing. It isn't fun to keep playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to compete a game that I can't win or improve myself. You can't build a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill aim is more difficult than increasing in gear level or character aim or whatever. The moment you start tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent accommodate level obtained etc.) the skill factor gets drowned out and players complain that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy nick btw... I like it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to company. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy bet measure cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in place to allow you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I undergo completely failed to hold is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not undergo an MMO with "casual" mini-games that give items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" displace and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can appeal to both the "I gotta be uber" displace and the "I just want to play around for a while" crowd at the same measure but it ordain take a completely different way of looking at game design for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only reward measure spent in game. Your level and virtual wealth depend almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually predict with some accuracy how many hours an average gamer needs to play to arrive the level cap. But what else could a MMORPG recognise? I think I can summarize it with three points: money real time and skill. Money and real time are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you know that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works like this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily quest that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you have 1,000 gold. The daily quest is a typical real time reward but as your monthly fee is also due in real measure you could also consider it as being a reward for money spent. Other real time rewards are the xp be bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real measure or the harvesters in SWG. You can also reward players for money spent directly without linking it to time. That is usually called microtransactions the game company sells to players game items on their website for cash. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a copy in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that have microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that double your xp gains for a certain time. So basically you can alter money for time spending more of the former to spend less of the latter. Although some people are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games desire WoW don't offer time savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge bespeak for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves measure in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many people plus is gives rise to many secondary contradict effects like gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really happen all that much in mass market MMOs. bet companies have an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to progress because they don't want them to depart in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the aim cap it is due to not wanting to pay all that measure not due to not being skilled enough. assort play and raid compete requires more skill which is one reason why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't sell all that come up because they exclude the less skilled from advancing. So if you have any ideas how to make MMORPGs more skill-based please comment! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were experience money and gear. As the exp isn't regarded as recognise but as a necessary evil on the way to end game content. I feel the games are missing this possibility to grant some sort of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to undergo all the seek givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you return them in sequence you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into compete and how to recognise that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in create of dilate performance or group play. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a golf championship if you only play a bring together of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in play you are training your skill to master the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your measure to the repetitive move of the game to obtain experience. In this aspect I agree with Tobold completely: there is no reward for skill in the bet. As a lower level WoW player the "fun and nice measure spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is cancel of people and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to fill the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the lower levels and when the 'new' player reaches the aim cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the worst case the prove is as pictured in Wife Aggro post http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI worry -really and honestly- that I'm going to lose the excitement of exploring the content of WoW before reaching the level cap because of the lack of social contacts and assort involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the bet it would alter it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who desire to excel in the game in other ways than just devoting their time to the press. Copra i think what i would like is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the move of the game so that you dont recognize them as separate minigames on the first look!minigames undergo the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to give full solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to hit the books the rules but difficult to bear on them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to combine into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you undergo to adjust to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to bear on to your skills- politics (like in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the abstract side of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i know how than i'm proud of stuff i just got sitting at my screen watching things happen with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to know what people would define skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we be to bust out the wii controller for our MMO?I accept fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some bedevil solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I think we have to be very careful how we be 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain gear trigger certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly accept a new combat call where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks require for example that you recently evaded an attack. Simply ramping this up but only for the people who want it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that measure is not the measuring stick for all matters of success. Consider two populate (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of school for various reasons (will believe this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D direct respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater be than B requireing him to work less time to acquire equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can end these tasks in a quicker measure. I think it is a mistake to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the bet maker as that will be what everyone works to end removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another inform what would you be able to quantify or measure 'skill' with as you have already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the game. MMOs are not the place for real skill-based rewards due to their business copy. If you compete a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the game is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you stop playing because you've won. When your business copy is subscription based what's the point of continuing to play if you win?"Well that's easy. Make the game competitive and the various skill levels of players will keep playing"While this is adjust you undergo to act rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players ordain stop playing. It isn't fun to keep playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to play a game that I can't win or alter myself. You can't create a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill aim is more difficult than increasing in gear level or engrave level or whatever. The moment you start tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent accommodate level obtained etc.) the skill calculate gets drowned out and players charge that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy nick btw... I desire it!)... I accept that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to company. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy game measure cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in place to allow you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I undergo completely failed to grasp is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that furnish items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" crowd and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can appeal to both the "I gotta be uber" displace and the "I just want to play around for a while" crowd at the same time but it will take a completely different way of looking at game design for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only reward time spent in game. Your aim and virtual wealth depend almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually predict with some accuracy how many hours an average gamer needs to play to reach the level cap. But what else could a MMORPG reward? I evaluate I can ingeminate it with three points: money real time and skill. Money and real measure are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you know that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works like this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily seek that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you undergo 1,000 gold. The daily quest is a typical real time recognise but as your monthly fee is also due in real time you could also consider it as being a recognise for money spent. Other real time rewards are the xp rest bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real time or the harvesters in SWG. You can also reward players for money spent directly without linking it to measure. That is usually called microtransactions the game company sells to players bet items on their website for change. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a copy in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that have microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that manifold your xp gains for a certain time. So basically you can alter money for measure spending more of the former to spend less of the latter. Although some populate are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games like WoW don't offer time savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge demand for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves measure in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many people plus is gives rise to many secondary negative effects like gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really come about all that much in mass market MMOs. bet companies have an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to develop because they don't be them to quit in frustration. There aren't many populate around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the aim cap it is due to not wanting to spend all that time not due to not being skilled enough. assort compete and raid compete requires more skill which is one reason why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't change all that well because they exclude the less skilled from advancing. So if you have any ideas how to alter MMORPGs more skill-based please mention! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were experience money and accommodate. As the exp isn't regarded as recognise but as a necessary evil on the way to end game content. I feel the games are missing this possibility to grant some sort of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to undergo all the quest givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you return them in sequence you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into play and how to reward that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in create of instance performance or group compete. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a golf championship if you only compete a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in golf you are training your skill to master the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your time to the repetitive part of the game to obtain experience. In this aspect I agree with Tobold completely: there is no recognise for skill in the game. As a lower level WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World circumscribe is void of people and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to alter the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the lower levels and when the 'new' player reaches the level cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the worst case the prove is as pictured in Wife Aggro affix http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI worry -really and honestly- that I'm going to lose the excitement of exploring the content of WoW before reaching the aim cap because of the lack of social contacts and group involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the game it would make it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who desire to excel in the game in other ways than just devoting their measure to the grind. Copra i think what i would desire is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the flow of the game so that you dont recognize them as separate minigames on the first glance!minigames have the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to give full solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to learn the rules but difficult to apply them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to integrate into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you have to attune to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to bear on to your skills- politics (like in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the abstract side of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i know how than i'm proud of stuff i just got sitting at my screen watching things come about with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to know what populate would define skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we need to bust out the wii controller for our MMO?I agree fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some puzzle solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I evaluate we have to be very careful how we define 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain gear trigger certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly allow a new combat style where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks demand for example that you recently evaded an attack. Simply ramping this up but only for the populate who want it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that time is not the measuring stick for all matters of success. Consider two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of school for various reasons (will consider this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D hold respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater amount than B requireing him to work less time to acquire equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can complete these tasks in a quicker time. I evaluate it is a identify to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the game maker as that will be what everyone works to complete removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another inform what would you be able to quantify or measure 'skill' with as you undergo already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the game. MMOs are not the displace for real skill-based rewards due to their business copy. If you play a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the game is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you forbid playing because you've won. When your business model is subscription based what's the point of continuing to play if you win?"Well that's easy. Make the game competitive and the various skill levels of players ordain keep playing"While this is true you have to keep rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players ordain forbid playing. It isn't fun to keep playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to play a game that I can't win or alter myself. You can't build a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill level is more difficult than increasing in gear level or character level or whatever. The moment you start tempering the skill requirements with other things (measure spent gear aim obtained etc.) the skill factor gets drowned out and players complain that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy nick btw... I like it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to company. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy game measure cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in displace to allow you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I have completely failed to hold is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that furnish items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" displace and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can challenge to both the "I gotta be uber" displace and the "I just want to compete around for a while" crowd at the same time but it will take a completely different way of looking at game create by mental act for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only reward time spent in game. Your level and virtual wealth depend almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually predict with some accuracy how many hours an average gamer needs to play to reach the level cap. But what else could a MMORPG reward? I think I can summarize it with three points: money real time and skill. Money and real time are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you know that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works desire this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily seek that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you undergo 1,000 gold. The daily quest is a typical real time recognise but as your monthly fee is also due in real measure you could also consider it as being a reward for money spent. Other real time rewards are the xp rest bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real measure or the harvesters in SWG. You can also reward players for money spent directly without linking it to measure. That is usually called microtransactions the game company sells to players game items on their website for change. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a model in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that have microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that double your xp gains for a certain time. So basically you can substitute money for time spending more of the former to pay less of the latter. Although some people are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games desire WoW don't offer measure savings for change directly there is obviously a huge demand for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves measure in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many populate plus is gives rise to many secondary negative effects desire gold e-mail. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really happen all that much in crowd merchandise MMOs. Game companies have an interest in allowing change surface the least skilled players to progress because they don't want them to depart in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the level cap it is due to not wanting to spend all that time not due to not being skilled enough. Group play and raid play requires more skill which is one cerebrate why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't sell all that well because they do away with the less skilled from advancing. So if you have any ideas how to alter MMORPGs more skill-based please comment! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were experience money and accommodate. As the exp isn't regarded as reward but as a necessary evil on the way to end bet content. I conclude the games are missing this possibility to give some sort of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to have all the quest givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same time and as you go them in sequence you get more of the same. In the repetitive game where the skill comes into play and how to reward that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in create of instance performance or assort compete. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a golf championship if you only compete a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in golf you are training your skill to know the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your time to the repetitive part of the bet to gain experience. In this aspect I agree with Tobold completely: there is no recognise for skill in the game. As a lower level WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is void of people and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to alter the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the lower levels and when the 'new' player reaches the aim cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the beat inspect the result is as pictured in Wife Aggro post http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI worry -really and honestly- that I'm going to suffer the excitement of exploring the content of WoW before reaching the level cap because of the lack of social contacts and group involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the bet it would make it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who seek to excel in the bet in other ways than just devoting their time to the grind. Copra i evaluate what i would like is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the move of the bet so that you dont accept them as separate minigames on the first glance!minigames have the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to provide full solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to hit the books the rules but difficult to apply them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to integrate into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you have to attune to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to apply to your skills- politics (desire in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the consider align of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i know how than i'm proud of stuff i just got sitting at my screen watching things happen with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to know what people would define skill as? Is it the ability to displace up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we need to bust out the wii controller for our MMO?I agree fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some bedevil solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I think we have to be very careful how we define 'skill' or we could end up with a game that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain gear initiate certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly allow a new combat style where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks demand for example that you recently evaded an attack. Simply ramping this up but only for the people who want it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that measure is not the measuring fasten for all matters of success. Consider two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of school for various reasons (ordain believe this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D hold respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater amount than B requireing him to work less time to acquire equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can complete these tasks in a quicker time. I evaluate it is a identify to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the bet maker as that will be what everyone works to end removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another point what would you be able to quantify or measure 'skill' with as you undergo already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the game. MMOs are not the displace for real skill-based rewards due to their business model. If you play a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the game is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you forbid playing because you've won. When your business model is subscription based what's the point of continuing to play if you win?"Well that's easy. Make the bet competitive and the various skill levels of players will keep playing"While this is true you have to keep rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players ordain forbid playing. It isn't fun to keep playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to play a game that I can't win or improve myself. You can't build a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill level is more difficult than increasing in gear level or character aim or whatever. The moment you start tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent gear aim obtained etc.) the skill calculate gets drowned out and players charge that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy cut btw... I desire it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from company to affiliate. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy game time cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in displace to allow you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I have completely failed to hold is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that furnish items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" displace and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I accept you can appeal to both the "I gotta be uber" crowd and the "I just want to compete around for a while" displace at the same time but it ordain take a completely different way of looking at bet create by mental act for MMORPG's.

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One of the constant criticisms leveled against most current MMORPGs is that they only reward time spent in game. Your aim and virtual wealth depend almost linearly on how many hours you spent playing. You can actually predict with some accuracy how many hours an average gamer needs to compete to reach the level cap. But what else could a MMORPG reward? I think I can summarize it with three points: money real measure and skill. Money and real measure are somewhat related via monthly fees. Did you know that you can buy 1,000 WoW gold directly from Blizzard for $40? It works desire this: You pay them $40 for a 3-month subscription and every day you log on for the 10 minutes it takes to do the daily quest that gives 12 gold. At the end of the 3 months you have 1,000 gold. The daily quest is a typical real time recognise but as your monthly fee is also due in real measure you could also consider it as being a reward for money spent. Other real time rewards are the xp rest bonus of WoW and other games. EVE Online's skill gains in real measure or the harvesters in SWG. You can also reward players for money spent directly without linking it to measure. That is usually called microtransactions the game affiliate sells to players game items on their website for cash. Very popular in Asia very much disputed as a model in the Western world. Which is strange given how much higher the GDP of the USA or Europe is compared to Asian countries. Apparently in many games that have microtransactions the most popular items to buy are buffs that double your xp gains for a certain measure. So basically you can substitute money for time spending more of the former to spend less of the latter. Although some people are very much opposed to that in principle it has to be noted that while games like WoW don't offer time savings for cash directly there is obviously a huge demand for it which is what fuels the whole gold farming business. Buying gold in WoW from a third-party website also costs money and saves time in the game. But it isn't allowed by the EULA and ToS and is considered as cheating by many people plus is gives rise to many secondary negative effects desire gold spam. The holy grail of MMORPGs is rewarding players for skill. That doesn't really happen all that much in mass merchandise MMOs. Game companies undergo an interest in allowing even the least skilled players to progress because they don't be them to quit in frustration. There aren't many people around for who World of Warcraft is too difficult if anyone is not reaching the level cap it is due to not wanting to spend all that time not due to not being skilled enough. Group compete and assail play requires more skill which is one reason why it is more popular with the more dedicated gamers. Pure skill-based MMORPGs probably wouldn't change all that come up because they do away with the less skilled from advancing. So if you have any ideas how to make MMORPGs more skill-based please mention! - posted by @ In traditional RPG's the rewards were undergo money and gear. As the exp isn't regarded as reward but as a necessary evil on the way to end bet content. I conclude the games are missing this possibility to grant some choose of skill gratification. It's all nice and spiffy to have all the seek givers in groups so you can get several quests at the same measure and as you return them in sequence you get more of the same. In the repetitive bet where the skill comes into compete and how to recognise that? There are no puzzles in the MMO's anymore to reward the thinking player and the emphasis seems to be switching from exploration to exploitation. Or it has already done that to be honest. More skill based rewards for example in form of dilate performance or group compete. Copra Vlad said:"Isn't this the same for any activity? You won't win a golf championship if you only compete a couple of hours on a Sunday now and again."Yes and no: in play you are training your skill to master the game in WoW and most other MMORPG's only devoting your measure to the repetitive part of the game to obtain experience. In this aspect I agree with Tobold completely: there is no recognise for skill in the game. As a lower aim WoW player the "fun and nice time spent with friends and possible new friends" Jack-O-Lantern suggests seems pretty far fetched as the Old World content is void of populate and the ones that are rushing through the content are old players powering their alts up to alter the guild needs. There is no real social connection anymore in the lower levels and when the 'new' player reaches the aim cap the guilds raiding are having fun and nice time with friends. In the worst case the result is as pictured in Wife Aggro post http://wifeagro blogspot com/2007/10/waiter-there-is-drama-in-my-guild htmlI fear -really and honestly- that I'm going to suffer the excitement of exploring the content of WoW before reaching the level cap because of the lack of social contacts and group involvement. How many newcomers are put off by this fact?If there was some system of rewarding skill or creativity in the game it would alter it more interesting for those who haven't been there from the beginning and who seek to excel in the game in other ways than just devoting their time to the grind. Copra i think what i would desire is a system which rewards understanding of ingame minigames there should be several to many and i'd say fighting healing crafting are minigames already but there should be more and they should be integrated in the flow of the game so that you dont recognize them as displace minigames on the first glance!minigames undergo the advantages that it is impossible or very difficult to give beat solutions to them in the web; instead it should be easy to learn the rules but difficult to apply them optimally the performance in the minigames should of course be influenced by your characters statistics/attributes/skills/whatever minigames could be puzzles strategic or luck-based games and so on there are so many game-ideas around in boardgames and computergames ideas for how to integrate into storyline: - standing with your gods (some minigame where you have to attune to them on a frequent basis)- scientific understanding of things/the world to apply to your skills- politics (like in vanguard)- creating weapons (be it spells or physical weapons or technological)- .. maybe this is a bit on the abstract side of things but i'm always more proud of things i can do because i know how than i'm proud of stuff i just got sitting at my screen watching things come about with minimal interaction. I'd be interested to experience what people would define skill as? Is it the ability to push up-down-up-down-A-B-A-B? Is it mouse-clicking skill? Do we be to destroy out the wii controller for our MMO?I agree fully that some variety of gameplay maybe some puzzle solving quests or whatever would be a good thing. But I think we have to be very careful how we define 'skill' or we could end up with a bet that really isn't what we started with. It would be interesting to have certain gear initiate certain types of 'skill' based interactions. So for example the +5 Gloves of Targeted Smiting suddenly allow a new contend call where you aim your hits. To some degree this has already been done - certain attacks require for example that you recently evaded an attack. Simply ramping this up but only for the populate who want it might be a solution. You are assuming here that time in = money spent and that measure is not the measuring stick for all matters of success. Consider two people (Person A and D) person D failed out and dropped out of school for various reasons (will believe this a person with less skill) and person A graduated with an MBA. Both person A and D hold respectful jobs but Person A makes a greater be than B requireing him to bring home the bacon less time to earn equivalent amount. I'd say this carries over into MMORPGs someone who is skilled whether it be in PvP. PvE. Farming or whatelse someone wants to excel in can complete these tasks in a quicker time. I think it is a mistake to say that someone must be rewarded for skill by the game maker as that will be what everyone works to complete removing all the 'skill' required with guides and intense walkthroughs. On another point what would you be able to quantify or decide 'skill' with as you have already pointed out yourself you can't use the same system for all aspects of the game. MMOs are not the place for real skill-based rewards due to their business model. If you play a game and are good at it you win. Highly skilled players win quickly and win often. So what do you do when you run out of challenges? Unless the bet is competitive (which most MMOs are not) you stop playing because you've won. When your business model is subscription based what's the point of continuing to play if you win?"Well that's easy. Make the game competitive and the various skill levels of players will keep playing"While this is adjust you have to keep rewarding everyone or the lesser skilled players will forbid playing. It isn't fun to keep playing and never get any rewards at all. I certainly wouldn't keep paying money to play a bet that I can't win or improve myself. You can't build a MMOG based on skill alone simply because it changes too much and increasing in skill aim is more difficult than increasing in gear level or engrave level or whatever. The moment you start tempering the skill requirements with other things (time spent gear aim obtained etc.) the skill factor gets drowned out and players complain that the game takes no skill. First off to "anonymous" (catchy nick btw... I like it!)... I believe that's against the WoW EULA but it varies from affiliate to affiliate. For example. EVE Online allows you to buy game measure cards with ingame money and actually has a mechanism in place to allow you to do so with limited risk of being ripped off. As to the main topic here what I have completely failed to grasp is why it has to be all or nothing. I wrote up an example the other day on my blog while griping about a new MMO coming out that touts the fact that it's "all about getting rich killing the most things etc etc".. why not have an MMO with "casual" mini-games that give items needed to PvP? Create a little synergy between the "Peggle" crowd and the "133t hax0r" PvP group?I believe you can challenge to both the "I gotta be uber" crowd and the "I just want to play around for a while" displace at the same time but it will act a completely different way of looking at game create by mental act for MMORPG's.

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